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I used my Dremel to notch the guard so that it can now 'lay back' out of the way. The miter guage was right on. The Biesemeyer fence installed easily with the included guage but the instructions are not completely accurate. The fence itself was defective in that the laminated wooden faceplates extended too far below the metal body of the fence so they dragged on the table and caught in the miter slot. You cannot adjust the faces but Biesemeyer replaced the fence and it is a solid, easily adjusted dream to work with. It could also use some attachments similar to the Vega product. Oh well, it's a challange to dream up some jigs. I used the Delta mobile base (lot's cheaper from Hechingers), the same one that fits my bandsaw. It is very sturdy and works well. As noted by others it requires some shimming to keep the saw from sliding around in the oversized base. That was easy to do. Interestingly it also wedged into the space in the trunnions that is normally occupied by the mechanism when the blade is dropped. After a time (100' of cut) I could no longer drop the blade below the table surface. I had to reach in through the door and poke out the shavings. With all of that I think it was easy to assemble. Probably took me eight careful hours of thinking and doing. It runs like a charm, seems to be very sturdily constructed, is accurate, easy to set up cuts (as modified). The Biesemeyer is solid, easy to align to the miter slot and impossible to budge once locked down. The cursor hairline is down on the tape to minimize parrallax(?) and is very accurate. The storage (racking)provisions for the wrenches, fence and miter are a plus. The two wrench approach to blade replacement makes it a lot simpler than having to wedge the blade and use a single wrench. The stop switch location is ideal for a 'No Hands' shutoff. I use a hex-key to 'lock' the switch in the off position preventing careless accidents.
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Please upgrade your browser to improve your experience. It showed fair parallelism in our tests. The procedure is covered in the manual. The tablesaw has good cutting power and its miter gauge is especially sturdy and comfortable. I also checked arbor runout (measured at the face of the arbor-flange) and it had 0.001-in. Sign Up Now. It also describes information tools available at eReplacementParts.com. You can use a multimeter to test tool and appliance cords and switches, the two parts usually responsible for electri. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we don’t use a simple average. Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. It also analyzes reviews to verify trustworthiness. See All Buying Options Add to Wish List Disabling it will result in some disabled or missing features. You can still see all customer reviews for the product. The same technique was used to set it on the mobile base (more later). I used paper towels to remove most of the grease from the table top and wings before cleaning with paint thinner. Installing the belt is simplified by using the triangle shaped packing foam to block the motor up in position. Using a workmate table to hold the wings in position for installation was a big help but shimming was required to make them flat to the top. The wooden extension table goes on easily and certainly does not seem to need the legs supplied with the saw. The blade guard pushes the (red) table insert foward making the holdown screw hard to install. I filed the guard a bit to improve the fit. Replacing the two bolts used to install the guard with wingnuts means I never have to use the poorly designed 'wrench' supplied with the saw to mount or remove the guard. I'm sure this is thought of as a safety feature but it made me want to work without the guard; not a good idea.
You cannot adjust the faces but Biesemeyer replaced the fence and it is a solid, easily adjusted dream to work with. It could also use some attachments similar to the Vega product. Oh well, it's a challange to dream up some jigs. I used the Delta mobile base (lot's cheaper from Hechingers), the same one that fits my bandsaw. It is very sturdy and works well. As noted by others it requires some shimming to keep the saw from sliding around in the oversized base. That was easy to do. Interestingly it also wedged into the space in the trunnions that is normally occupied by the mechanism when the blade is dropped. After a time (100' of cut) I could no longer drop the blade below the table surface. I had to reach in through the door and poke out the shavings. With all of that I think it was easy to assemble. Probably took me eight careful hours of thinking and doing. It runs like a charm, seems to be very sturdily constructed, is accurate, easy to set up cuts (as modified). The Biesemeyer is solid, easy to align to the miter slot and impossible to budge once locked down. The cursor hairline is down on the tape to minimize parrallax(?) and is very accurate. The storage (racking)provisions for the wrenches, fence and miter are a plus. The two wrench approach to blade replacement makes it a lot simpler than having to wedge the blade and use a single wrench. The stop switch location is ideal for a 'No Hands' shutoff. I use a hex-key to 'lock' the switch in the off position preventing careless accidents. Overall, after a week of cutting, I think this will serve me well for many years. Only time will verify the quality but I am very happy using this saw.Please try again later. Please try again later. Bill K. 5.0 out of 5 stars The fence system is truly amazing and accurate. The side table is fine but an outfeed table (built-in and fold-up) would have been a better investment. I'll likely build one on my own, but with Delta's skills I would rather have theirs!!!
Overall, after a week of cutting, I think this will serve me well for many years. Only time will verify the quality but I am very happy using this saw. I had a lot of problems with it, including shaking badly; however, my local dealer, Apex Saw of Reno, NV stood behind the product and took a return. In addition, Delta stood behind the saw and also told me they would give me a return. That is great customer service and I want to praise Apex Saw of Reno and Delta for their service. AD2 Please try again later. From the United StatesThe saw arrived in a slightly damaged crate but no damage to the product. The same technique was used to set it on the mobile base (more later). I used paper towels to remove most of the grease from the table top and wings before cleaning with paint thinner. Installing the belt is simplified by using the triangle shaped packing foam to block the motor up in position. Using a workmate table to hold the wings in position for installation was a big help but shimming was required to make them flat to the top. The wooden extension table goes on easily and certainly does not seem to need the legs supplied with the saw. The blade guard pushes the (red) table insert foward making the holdown screw hard to install. I filed the guard a bit to improve the fit. Replacing the two bolts used to install the guard with wingnuts means I never have to use the poorly designed 'wrench' supplied with the saw to mount or remove the guard. I'm sure this is thought of as a safety feature but it made me want to work without the guard; not a good idea. I used my Dremel to notch the guard so that it can now 'lay back' out of the way. The miter guage was right on. The Biesemeyer fence installed easily with the included guage but the instructions are not completely accurate. The fence itself was defective in that the laminated wooden faceplates extended too far below the metal body of the fence so they dragged on the table and caught in the miter slot.
I bought a Freud 8-inch dial-a-dado set, and it works wonderfully, even when set to a pretty aggressive depth and going through oak and bubinga. I do wish the arbor were a bit longer--the outside nut on a fully stacked dado set could be easy to strip if you get it on there wrong. But the motor is quiet (for a power saw), and very smooth, especially compared to my old benchtop model. Dust collection with a Delta dust collector is awesome, thanks to the enclosed cabinet. I bought an Incra miter gauge, which is fantastic; I never even unbagged the stock gauge. Oh, I also bought the Delta 50-941 mobile base, which works very well and fits the saw perfectly, except that it doesn't support the out-table included with this version. No problem; because I'm moving it often, I decided the legs on the out-table were just getting in the way, so I just removed them. I'm not wild about the blade guard; lumber fits very tightly between the guard and the fence when ripping, and that's with it adjusted as far away as I can get it. It's probably because I'm most often using a (Freud) thin-kerf blade, but there has to be a better way to prevent kickback. Overall, I'm very happy with the saw. I'm more than satisfied with the quality of materials and construction. I keep thinking, this 400-pound animal cost half what my 3-pound laptop cost. I'll need to replace the laptop in a couple years; the saw will outlive me.Please try again later. Please try again later. Brian Kelly 5.0 out of 5 stars I had read some of the negative reviews here and was pretty wary but I went ahead and purchased it from Woodcraft because the store salespeople and the manager were very enthusiastic about the saw. I later met two of their employees who have also purchased the same saw for their personal shops. Anyhow, they seemed suprprised by the reviews it had gotten here on Amazon.com.
Only complaint is the dust extraction. Even with my shop's dust collector less than 8' away a bunch still gets caught in the bottom of the cabinet because it isn't fully enclosed so suction is greatly reduced.Please try again later. Please try again later. NMCajun 5.0 out of 5 stars Very good instructions. The saw itself is a workhorse and purrs like a kitten. If you're looking to upgrade from a contractors saw to a stationary saw that can handle professional projects - without going broke - this is an excellent choice.Please try again later. Please try again later. Wlug 5.0 out of 5 stars I'd buy it again. That fence is accurate.Please try again later. Please try again later. I finally decided to ask my local WoodCraft people which one's best. They helped me figure out that the Delta--at least, in the configuration with the best fence--cost less. Price wasn't my main consideration, but they also seemed slightly keener on the Delta. I had planned on purchasing it from Amazon, because it usually offers the best price, no sales tax, and free shipping, but I see lately that it's playing games with the prices, and with the shipping charges. And the WoodCraft rep earned my business, no question. The crate that contained the saw was undamaged, and the saw itself had suffered no damage whatsoever; it even came with plenty of extra bolts. The wings are a pain to align correctly, but they did line up okay. Everything was perfectly aligned; measuring with a T-square from the miter slot to the front and back of the blade showed a slight discrepancy, but it turned out that stock blade was a little warped, and I wasn't going to use it anyway. Like someone else here, I decided on a hybrid because I have to rely on 115 volts--I rent a house in the San Francisco Bay Area, and buying is stupid right now. This (or the Jet) was the most powerful saw I could get. I was still worried that it might not have enough power, especially with a dado set, but I've had zero problems.
The longer I have the saw, the happier I am with my decision to purchase it. Update - after owning and using this saw for over 6 months, and having done most of a bathroom remodel, including new base cabinets, chimney closet, and medicine chest made from red oak, the saw has performed flawlessly, even with many dado cuts, and rabbit cuts. I still have a sink vanity to build, and look foward to getting back in the shop when the weather warms enough for glue to set up. This saw is the real deal. For someone who does not have the electrical for a 220 volt hookup, and the room for a unisaw, this saw is on the same quality with the unisaw, just not as much horsepower. I have been very, very satisfied!!! This is a great saw. Update: January 2011 I am still very happy with this saw. I don't know that they are making it anymore, but this saw has met all my expectations, and has given me great service, without a single issue. Anyone who might find one used, would do well, if it is in good shape. Four years later, I am still glad I bought this saw.Please try again later. Please try again later. P. LeFevre 5.0 out of 5 stars I had none of the quality or assembly issues that others have mentioned (can't believe anybody's complaining about installing the belt, or that it took an hour -- you guys are kidding, right. Flip the motor up, seat the belt, let the motor down. It passes the nickel test with flying colors. Initial cuts are smooth, straight, square. Not the case. What you do get is a significant upgrade from a contractor-type saw, a solid, stable, accurate machine with a great fence that runs like a champ. Take your time putting it together, and you'll love it as much as I do!Please try again later. Please try again later. Fast Eddie 4.0 out of 5 stars I would have given it 5 stars if the set-up had gone smoother. However, I wanted better than that, so I took them into work (I'm a machinist) and ground them myself - they are now both within.001.
I should mention that the main table was very good - within.003, and the finish of the grinding on both wings and the main table was absolutely superb. Contrary to what the manual says, I decided to check the trunion alignment before installing the wings and fence rails because access to the undercarriage is a lot easier without them installed. Trunion alignment was off by.012, so I loosened the 4 bolts and adjusted it. The bolts are fairly easy to reach, and in about 20 minutes I had it within.001. It was not hard to do. I tried to loosen the (small, metric) setscrew on the motor pulley, but the head immediately stripped. I had to remove the motor and drill out the setscrew. I then installed a larger ?-28 setscrew in the pulley and re-assembled everything. At this point I decided to run the saw and see if there was anything else that might need tuning before installing the wings. The saw ran fine, but on shutdown the whole saw would develop a shaking motion before coming to a stop. The motor bolts to a cast iron plate, which pivots on 2 pins. I found there was excessive clearance between the holes in the plate and the pivot pins (.012 on one,.018 on the other). Delta tried to tell me the shaking is from the belt, and the clearance is there so the motor can rotate up and down freely. Freely is one thing - sloppy is another. Anyway, I removed the motor (again!), removed the plate and the pins and wrapped the appropriate size shim stock around each pin that would eliminate the play and still allow it to rotate. I carefully re-assembled everything and tried it again. WOW! What a difference. The saw was now rock solid. Now confident that everything was all right, I installed the extension wings and the Biesemeyer fence. The miter gauge that came with this saw is very good. It has a locking finger (much like a miter saw) that engages at all the common angles each side of 90 degrees, and the engagement points are all adjustable.
They had a running, fully set-up demo in the store and it ran like a champ and looked very nice and very high quality for the money and they assured me that they would stand behind the quality of the saw and with their assurances that I would be well happy with it I purchased it, loaded it up and took it home. I had a few small troubles with mine but nothing like what others have said here. As another reviewer pointed out the wooden crate that it was shipped in was kind of beat up but everything inside was fine. The only problem I had in assembling it was tath I had to cut a small peice off the back edge of the blade guard to get it to rest in the slot for holding it up and out of the way. I thought at one point that the rails for the Biesemeyer fence were cut wrong and I was really beginning to get upset about that so I called the store the next day and found out that the confusion was in the directions which showed the assembly for a table using the Uni-fence and not for a Biesemeyer. Once you understand this everything went together fine and the saw is now running beautifully with not even the slightest bit of adjustment to the blade. It also looks wonderful and to tell you the truth I couldn't be prouder than to see my very own Delta Industrial Table Saw setup in my home shop.Please try again later. Please try again later. Frank Evans 5.0 out of 5 stars I placed the order with Amazon on Feb 24, 2005. The saw was delivered on the 3rd of March by ABF Freight. There were 4 boxes and no apparent damage to any of them. Upon unpacking I found that the cover on the power switch was cracked, otherwise there was no concealed damage, well packed and good handling. The belt went right on with very little effort. The extension wings went on with no problem however it does take a little time to align them right. The left wing had a 0.008 droop to the outside. This was corrected by a couple of shims. The right was dead on.
The fence instructions worked well as long as you follow the section for the UniSaw.Please try again later. Please try again later. R. Chandler 5.0 out of 5 stars I was a little cautious after reading some of the negative reviews here on amazon.com. I have done woodworking for nearly 20 years, and wanted to upgrade from a sears craftsman contractor saw. After speaking with another local woodworker who does period reproductions on commission and repairs furniture for a living, he told me he bought this same saw and was very happy with it. One tiny mark on the table top that can be sanded down occurred during shipping. The saw was fairly easy to set up, and I have achieved less than.001 parallel on the Biesmeyer fence with the miter slot. The blade that comes with the saw is only fair. I replaced it with a Freud industrial blade and it runs great. The rails are just a bit confusing at first, but take your time and you will get them installed in the correct holes after a few moments. The belt was a breeze to put on the pulleys, with a block of 2x4 and a pry bar to lift the motor. The table extensions lined up very nicely. The motor plainly says 3450 rpm, not the 3000 rpm in delta's literature. The 3450 rpm is industry standard for a 15 amp motor, so don't be worried about the misprint in the literature. I highly recommend this saw to serious woodworkers and believe it to be a good value and a good product. This is not a Unisaw. However, it has many of the excellent features and quality workmanship of the unisaw, and if you do not use it commercially in a full time cabinet shop or similar business, the saw should give you many years of good service. I am a stickler for precision, and the saw required only minor adjustments to make it very accurate. I started the saw, ran it for a few minutes, and turned the saw off and the nickel stayed standing. Once you break in the belt for a few minutes, the saw is very smooth.
The saw is not noisy (as tablesaws go), and it has lots of power. On one of the woodworking forums someone was questioning the 3000 RPM blade speed as posted by Delta. For the gentleman who found the blade raising mechanism to be stiff - the engagenent of the pinion in the rack is adjustable - it shows you how to make the adjustment in the owners nanual. With the saw now running so smooth I decided to give it the nickel test. It was no problem at all to get the nickel on it's edge with the saw running. Feeling confident, I shut the saw off, and the nickel never even flinched. I then restarted the saw - no movement at all. In short, with a nickel standing on it's edge I've started and stopped the saw so many times I've lost count, and it won't topple over. Very impressive. I don't know if any saw is 100% perfect out of the box, but I feel I had to do more fine tuning with mine than I should have. However, I now have a saw that is a joy to use - quiet, vibration free, accurate, great dust collection, an excellent fence, and I even like the paint color. I'm very happy with the saw.Please try again later. Please try again later. Factory wired to 115V (220V capable). The freight companies are also subject to a number of regulations one being that they are not to give any assistance in unloading from the truck, they are only responsible to get the products to the back of the truck. If you have any questions relative to its application DO NOT use the product until you have written Delta Machinery and we have advised you. The information it contains relates to protecting YOUR SAFETY and PREVENTING PROBLEMS. The symbols below are used to help you recognize this information. Indicates an imminently hazardous situation which, if not avoided, will result in death or serious injury. Indicates a potentially hazardous situation which, if not avoided, could result in death or serious injury. Make sure your extension cord is in good condition. When using PROTECTION.
If an extension cord is used, use only 3-wire extension cords which have 3- prong grounding type plugs and matching receptacle which will accept the machine’s plug. M5x20mm Screw (1) 21. CARTON CONTENTS Fig. 1 Fig. 2. Drill pilot holes in these spots and attach to floor using appropriate hardware. The weight of the motor will provide the correct tension on the belt. The belt (D) Fig. 8D is shown installed correctly as seen through the open door in the side of the saw. Fig. 8 Fig. 8A Fig. 8B. Align the three holes in the extension wing with the three holes (A) Fig. 9 in the side of the saw table.Be sure to locate the M8x25 bolts and M8 washers and lock washers (Nos. 8, 9 and 10 in Fig. 2) which were included in the saw package. Place flat washers,. IMPORTANT: When installing the table insert, make certain to hold on to the blade guard (L). The insert. To turn the saw “OFF”, push switch shield (A) Fig. 32. CHECKING BLADE ALIGNMENT The saw has been aligned at the factory so the saw blade is parallel to the miter gage slots; however, it is recommended to check the alignment before initial. One of the rules in running a saw is that you never hang onto or touch the part of the workpiece that will be cut off. Hold the supported piece, not the free piece that is cut off. Turn the saw on and raise the cutterhead. The cutterhead will cut its own groove in the wood-facing. Fig. 52 shows a typical moulding operation. Further information on the safe and proper operation of table saws is available in the Delta “Getting the Most Out of Your Table Saw” How-To Book, Catalog No. To obtain additional information regarding your Delta quality product or to obtain parts, service, warranty assistance, or the location of the nearest service outlet, please call 1-800-223-7278 (In Canada call 1-800-463-3582). To start viewing messages,A friend recently made me an offer to buy the 3550 that I had to take, so I am in the market for a new saw. It is either the R4511 or the Delta 36-717 hybrid.
I remember putting the 3550 together, and now reading the post about recalls and post after post about how to put the 4511 together without problems, this worries me. Anyone who has put together a table saw, used a table saw for any decent length of time could put the Delta together pretty much without the manual. Do not get me wrong, the 3550 served me well and I love my orange tools, and I have most all of them. I just do not want issues. The money and the Bies fense aside, someone help convince me to bleed orange again Using the manual, exploded assembly diagrams, and common sense I had no problem having the saw assembled and adjusted in an afternoon. All the adjustments went easily, and I found no issues at all with my saw out of the box. The 2-peice fence is not as good as the 1-piece, but mine aligned with no problem and the fence glides over without a hiccup, and I have no need to upgrade it in the near future as it work great. I would recommend this saw to anyone. The LSA with RIDGID is top notch, and for the price point you could not find a better saw.The Delta uses table mounted trunnions combined with the older style connecting rods as an arbor carriage. The R4511 has cabinet mounted trunnions and a one piece cast blade shroud as an arbor carriage.much more substantial design. Vs: A friend recently made me an offer to buy the 3550 that I had to take, so I am in the market for a new saw. It is either the R4511 or the Delta 36-717 hybrid. I remember putting the 3550 together, and now reading the post about recalls and post after post about how to put the 4511 together without problems, this worries me. Anyone who has put together a table saw, used a table saw for any decent length of time could put the Delta together pretty much without the manual. Do not get me wrong, the 3550 served me well and I love my orange tools, and I have most all of them. I just do not want issues.
The money and the Bies fense aside, someone help convince me to bleed orange again Assembly was no big deal, and there are several good step by step blogs on here that will make it a snap. Main selling points for me were: Cabinet style for dust collection, and the cabinet mounted trunnion, which is a huge design upgrade!! Squaring the miter slots to the blade only requires loosening the 4 table top bolts and pivoting the top slightly to align. This was an excercise in frustration with my tabletop mounted trunnion on the old saw!!! The saw is nice. The fence would not be as good as the Bies, but it is a nice fence nonetheless and once adjusted works fine and locks solid with no deflection. Needs some faces added to it, but thats inexpensive. More of a T2 type design. The granite top has not been an issue for me, and that worried me at first coming from a cast top saw. The only potential weakness with the granite is possilby chipping it with the T slot miter gauge. The workaround that really eliminates that is to take off the T slot foot from the miter gauge, and also insert and withdraw the miter gauge from the rear of the saw not the front. That way if you do choose to leave on the T slot foot it exits first when pushed to the rear of the saw and the miter can be lifted out. It took me like two uses to develop this as a habit, and I find the granite to be tough, and I don't really baby it in any way. Way less maintenance on the granite. Either saw would undoubtedly serve you well. Price point on the Ridgid is way better, than the Delta, but again the Bies probably pushes the Delta price up by 350, and so the two saws would be about even in price if the Bies was an option on the R4511. I think the recall issue on the R4511 arbor is over by now with everyone either getting the in home repair or in my case they delivered me a brand new saw and took away the old one. Good luck with your decision, either one would be a nice addition.
If I was in your shoes the toss up would be getting the better trunnion design, which really eliminates alignment as an issue, or getting the top of the line Bies fence. An alternative might be the Steel City hybrid, which looks to be made just as the R4511, but looks to have an equal fence to the Bies.I would add that the granite tops on these saws (at least mine) are almost dead flat, and will stay that way. It was very easy to level the wings due to the leveling set screws on the wing supports. For the price of this saw and all the features, you could easily justify losing the factory fence and get a much better aftremarket system. It would still cost less than the Delta. Besides, what other saws can you serve up wine and cheese from and not worry about the top getting damaged. I found it on sale locally at a Vendor day sale for 949.00. Was to good to pass up.It cost me 100.00 for basically the same LSA except there is no middle man. You are right about the fence, I never knew how much deflection I was getting. It is something that just happens when you compress 2 ends to tighten it up, it has a little flex.The front rail for the fence is in two sections which can introduce alignment and consistent ripping problems. A one piece front rail would be a major improvement IMO.Alignment of the 2 pieces has been a pain for some.If yes you would have a really serious table saw. I'm thinking that maybe you would like a 25 year investment type table saw this time. A good used USA made Powermatic 66 would be a great choice too.If you read all the posts, the OP already bought the Delta saw. If you read all the posts, the OP already bought the Delta saw. The front rail for the fence is in two sections which can introduce alignment and consistent ripping problems. A one piece front rail would be a major improvement IMO. Had to use a piece of paper under the right hand side. Once adjusted tho it's smooth and accurate.
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